就这样治疗感冒, 感冒着, 虚弱着……
好惊好险, 身体自我选择修护……
98年的夏天不知道什么原因, 身上没劲, 走不动道, 出去散步居然自己走不回来, 怎么也迈不开步, 要我爸背回来, 也不想吃东西, 躺在床上躺了10几天, 离死亡好 近, 幸好这次我妈没给我吃什么药, 只是给吃大米粥, 后来就好起来了。
道高一尺,魔高一丈, 好抵抗力, 抵不过冷掉瓶……
上了大学, 还是感冒, 然后抗生素。 有一次吃了10多天的抗生素, 一共换了3种药 , 最后头孢都上了, 还是没好, 就去打掉瓶了。 掉瓶一上, 3瓶就好了, 这个快啊 , 以后感冒了就直接掉瓶了。 这时候身体已经很不好了, 胃痛,腿脚总凉,颈椎病, 头痛。 可是我不懂啊, 继续着所有的错误, 还雪上加霜呢!
减肥, 心中永远的痛……
别忘了, 我胖啊! 大学里大家都比着美, 胖是一点都不美的, 所以就想到了减肥药 。 每个月的生活费, 大部分都用来吃减肥药了, 流行的我都尝试过, 效果不怎么 样, 瘦个几斤, 药一停体重就回去,减来减去还是这么沉重。 赔了钱财又陪掉健康 !
资金自由了, 药品升级了, 健康却成海市蜃楼了……
上班了以后有钱了, 每个月的工资大部分用来坚持和病魔做斗争,胃药, 鼻炎药, 颈椎药, 感冒药塞满了一个大抽屉, 吃完了再买, 可是总也没个完, 病也不好。 上班有压力,很累, 每到下午就上不来气。 为了治疗胃病,四联抗生素疗法连续20 天, 吃的晚上失眠, 耳鸣, 我也坚持下来, 一共两次, 加起来40天大剂量的抗生素 , 现在想来好后悔, 当时还挺高兴, 心里想着我这回这么多药来杀你病毒, 看你往 哪里躲。 两个字, 真傻! 过后还是病情照旧, 添了个新毛病,牙床总感觉压力,似 乎牙齿都要掉了, 上午还好过, 一到下午, 感觉这病咋这么严重?
名医名医你在哪儿……
这时就一直期望能够遇到名医, 城市里面的医院都跑遍了, 可是还是不行。 就把 期望寄托在网上, 希望通过网络可以治好自己的一身病。 网络上的药我也邮寄了 不少, 可是还是胃痛, 鼻炎。 有一天鼻子里流出来的鼻涕粘在嗓子里, 差点憋死 了。那时就在想, 花了这么多钱, 病也不好, 不会将来要换肾吧? 害怕死了, 心 里没有着落, 特别无力。
希望之光在中医
有一天, 自己突然醒悟了, 我得自救。 各种西药我都试验过了, 不好使, 就找中 药。 在网上自己搜索了好多种治疗胃病的方子, 有治疗脾胃虚弱的, 有的是脾胃 湿热的, 有的是肝胃不和的, 我一样试吃一周, 可是似乎都不大适合。还是得找专 家, 这回各个中医院都跑了个遍, 找名医, 换方子, 58块门诊一次也要诊, 可以好 点, 可是好不完全。可怎么办 啊?
风回路转, 柳暗花明……
这时候在网上已经接触到了一些脾肾虚寒, 阳虚阴虚的概念, 搜索到了一些伤寒论 等知识, 逐渐认识到能够根据伤寒论用方的大夫才能治好病, 偶然的机缘发现了德 明中医, 选择了志一诊室(我知道中医是不分科的,所以认定了志一诊室), 志一先 生第一剂给的就是麻黄附子细辛汤。 当时我好激动啊, 我知道这些药能治病,终于 找到真正的中医了。 从此,我的病开始有了极大的好转。
民间中医, 我的家……
后来看到三七先生和一个患者的对话帖子, 折服不已, 就Google搜索到了民间中医 , 当时太兴奋了, 看到三七先生坐诊, 居然不管三七二十一的就填了病历在先生的 爱滋病诊室, 真是傻到家了。接着在复泰草堂治疗将近一年,我已经不是原来的我 了。 不仅身体变好了, 人也变年轻了, 我爸说我比四年前还年轻漂亮。 当然, 现 在我也不那么胖了, 多吃点也没关系了! 现在我在行者先生那里治疗, 我很有信心 可以完全恢复。 真的非常幸运, 可以找到真正的中医, 碰到这么多位医术高超, 高尚无私的中医大夫。
星星之火,可以燎原; 每个人燃烧自己, 照亮周围一亩三分地……
现在我不仅是患者, 还是学生, 一直在论坛里学习着。用学习到的知识去影响周围 的亲人朋友, 希望大家都能够真正健康起来。这真不是一件容易的事, 口沫横飞半 天, 可能还是无法与别人沟通, 道路艰难而曲折。我觉得应该多掌握点中医知识, 然后以理服人, 就可以事半功倍了!
以上就是我的一点心得体会, 写的有点长, 有点罗嗦,希望能够有帮助, 也欢迎大 家指点不周之处。共同探讨健康之路。
还有一句, 以前我们数学老师说, 学数学不做题, 就如入宝山而空返。套用一下这 句话, 找到民间中医没有问诊, 也是入宝山而空返呀!
(问诊之前, 别忘了读一下《养病服药必读》。 三七先生反复强调“用药如用兵， 当适可而止，不可穷兵黩武，反致能源亏损。”我们得注意哦, 的确,想打赢这场 仗, 胜心有余, “精”力也得足啊!)
如果您看到底了, 请再次接受我的感谢, 谢谢您这么长时间的关注!给您耐心打100 分。
[ Last edited by jingwei on 2006/4/17 at 13:51 ]
2006-4-16 10:01 PM
古月
jingwei 小姐您好！
您写得很用心，这篇用长期误治换来的心得，实在是代价昂贵的经验，希望大家能 细仔的看。
我在您的大作间多按了几个Enter，其他一字不改。
其实很想给您在各段加标题，不过该由您来做才好。
2006-4-16 11:57 PM
古月
看来此帖后面还会有朋友要贴长文，建议大家如果文章较长，可试试多按几个 Enter，让您的大作(长文)更易于阅读 ，相对的也就会引起更多的回响，详细的说 明请见：
《论坛使用常识》
28楼文（多按Enter）
2006-4-17 12:05 AM
wesleybb
jingwei该不是chounan的同门师妹吧，
文笔不错。
1、健康是所有生物的正常状态，除非你有意去破坏；
2、生病时，尤其是慢性病，首先不要想着吃药，要先找到得病的原因；一但消除 了这个不利因素，即使没有外力帮助，身体也会很快调整过来；人体的聪明程度和 自我修复能力远远超过你的想象！
2006-4-17 12:27 AM
jingwei
谢谢古月,wesleybb二位版主的指点和鼓励!
chounan是师傅嫡传, 我只是窗边旁听, 偷学了一点, 呵呵, 说笑了。
的确是看过chounan的那篇诙谐幽默的大作, 很喜欢, 不自觉的就学习了……
2006-4-17 12:18 PM
三七生
谢谢楼上详细讲述自己的故事，不过还是要推荐一下《养病服药必读》（见本书第 87页），注意用药如用兵，当适可而止，不可穷兵黩武，反致能源亏损。
2006-4-17 12:29 PM
古月
《养病服药必读》（见本书第79页）已放到8楼文中了。
[ Last edited by 古月 on 2006/4/17 at 12:57 ]
2006-4-17 12:55 PM
古月
大家如发现有 和 8楼文相关的帖子(感冒的正治与误治、误用或滥用药物…等)， 可提出来，我将视内容代为放在 8楼，方便读者集中查阅。
其他的案例型帖子，可由大家自行贴出来，医案请以“主要证状”及“发病经过” 为主，请附上网址，以便读者详阅其他细节 。
[ Last edited by 古月 on 2006/4/18 at 10:40 ]
就这样治疗感冒，感冒着，虚弱着……
身体在惊恐与危险中，依靠自我选择进行修复……
1998年的夏天，不知什么原因，身上没劲，走不动路，出去散步竟然自己走不回来，怎么也迈不开步，要我爸背回来。也不想吃东西，躺在床上躺了十几天，离死亡好近。幸好这次我妈没给我吃什么药，只是给吃大米粥，后来就好起来了。
道高一尺，魔高一丈，好的抵抗力，抵不过冷掉瓶（静脉输液）……
上了大学，还是感冒，然后使用抗生素。有一次吃了十多种天的抗生素，一共换了3种药，最后头孢都上了，还是没好，就去打吊瓶了。打吊瓶一上，3瓶就好了，这个快啊，以后感冒了就直接打吊瓶了。这时候身体已经很不好了，胃痛，腿脚总凉，颈椎病，头痛。可是我不懂啊，继续着所有的错误，还雪上加霜呢！
减肥，心中永远的痛……
别忘了，我胖啊！大学里大家都比着美，胖是一点都不美的，所以就想到了减肥药。每个月的生活费，大部分都用来吃减肥药了，流行的我都尝试过，效果不怎么好，瘦个几斤，药一停体重就回去，减来减去还是这么沉重。赔了钱财又陪掉健康！
资金自由了，药品升级了，健康却成海市蜃楼了……
上班了以后有钱了，每个月的工资大部分用来坚持和病魔做斗争，胃药，鼻炎药，颈椎药，感冒药塞满了一个大抽屉，吃完了再买，可是总也没个完，病也不好。上班有压力，很累，每到下午就上不来气。为了治疗胃病，四联抗生素疗法连续20天，吃的晚上失眠，耳鸣，我也坚持下来，一共两次，加起来40天大剂量的抗生素，现在想来好后悔，当时还挺高兴，心里想着我这回这么多药来杀你病毒，看你往哪里躲。两个字，真傻！过后还是病情照旧，添了个新毛病，牙床总感觉压力，似乎牙齿都要掉了，上午还好过，一到下午，感觉这病咋这么严重？
名医名医你在哪儿……
这时就一直期望能够遇到名医，城市里面的医院都跑遍了，可是还是不行。就把期望寄托在网上，希望通过网络可以治好自己的一身病。网络上的药我也邮寄了不少，可是还是胃痛，鼻炎。有一天鼻子里流出来的鼻涕粘在嗓子里，差点憋死了。那时就在想，花了这么多钱，病也不好，不会将来要换肾吧？害怕死了，心里没有着落，特别无力。
希望之光在中医
有一天，自己突然醒悟了，我得自救。各种西药我都试验过了，不好使，就找中药。在网上自己搜索了好多种治疗胃病的方子，有治疗脾胃虚弱的，有的是脾胃湿热的，有的是肝胃不和的，我一样试吃一周，可是似乎都不大适合。还是得找专家，这回各个中医院都跑了个遍，找名医，换方子，58块门诊一次也要诊，可以好点，可是好不完全。可怎么办啊？
风回路转，柳暗花明……
这时候在网上已经接触到了一些脾肾虚寒，阳虚阴虚的概念，搜索到了一些伤寒论等知识，逐渐认识到能够根据伤寒论用方的大夫才能治好病，偶然的机缘发现了德明中医，选择了志一诊室（我知道中医是不分科的，所以认定了志一诊室），志一先生第一剂给的就是麻黄附子细辛汤。当时我好激动啊，我知道这些药能治病，终于找到真正的中医了。从此，我的病开始有了极大的好转。
民间中医，我的家……
后来看到三七先生和一个患者的对话帖子，折服不已，就Google搜索到了民间中医，当时太兴奋了，看到三七先生坐诊，居然不管三七二十一的就填了病历在先生的艾滋病诊室，真是傻到家了。接着在复泰草堂治疗将近一年，我已经不是原来的我了。不仅身体变好了，人也变年轻了，我爸说我比四年前还年轻漂亮。当然，现在我也不那么胖了，多吃点也没关系了！现在我在行者先生那里治疗，我很有信心可以完全恢复。真的非常幸运，可以找到真正的中医，碰到这么多位医术高超，高尚无私的中医大夫。
星星之火，可以燎原；每个人燃烧自己，照亮周围一亩三分地……
现在我不仅是患者，还是学生，一直在论坛里学习着。用学习到的知识去影响周围的亲人朋友，希望大家都能够真正健康起来。这真不是一件容易的事，口沫横飞半天，可能还是无法与别人沟通，道路艰难而曲折。我觉得应该多掌握点中医知识，然后以理服人，就可以事半功倍了！
以上就是我的一点心得体会，写的有点长，有点罗嗦，希望能够有帮助，也欢迎大家指点不周之处。共同探讨健康之路。
还有一句，以前我们数学老师说，学数学不做题，就如入宝山而空返。套用一下这句话，找到民间中医没有问诊，也是入宝山而空返呀！
（问诊之前，别忘了读一下《养病服药必读》。三七先生反复强调“用药如用兵，当适可而止，不可穷兵黩武，反致能源亏损。”我们得注意哦，的确，想打赢这场仗，胜心有余，“精”力也得足啊！）
如果您看到底了，请再次接受我的感谢，谢谢您这么长时间的关注！给您耐心打100分。
[ Last edited by jingwei on 2006/4/17 at 13:51 ]
2006-4-16 10:01 PM
古月
jingwei 小姐您好！
您写得很用心，这篇用长期误治换来的心得，实在是代价昂贵的经验，希望大家能细仔的看。
我在您的大作间多按了几个Enter，其他一字不改。
其实很想给您在各段加标题，不过该由您来做才好。
2006-4-16 11:57 PM
古月
看来此帖后面还会有朋友要贴长文，建议大家如果文章较长，可试试多按几个 Enter，让您的大作(长文)更易于阅读，相对的也就会引起更多的回响，详细的说明请见：
《论坛使用常识》
28楼文（多按Enter）
2006-4-17 12:05 AM
wesleybb
jingwei该不是chounan的同门师妹吧，
文笔不错。
1、健康是所有生物的正常状态，除非你有意去破坏；
2、生病时，尤其是慢性病，首先不要想着吃药，要先找到得病的原因；一但消除了这个不利因素，即使没有外力帮助，身体也会很快调整过来；人体的聪明程度和自我修复能力远远超过你的想象！
2006-4-17 12:27 AM
jingwei
谢谢古月,wesleybb二位版主的指点和鼓励!
chounan是师傅嫡传, 我只是窗边旁听, 偷学了一点, 呵呵, 说笑了。
的确是看过chounan的那篇诙谐幽默的大作, 很喜欢, 不自觉的就学习了……
2006-4-17 12:18 PM
三七生
谢谢楼上详细讲述自己的故事，不过还是要推荐一下《养病服药必读》（见本书第87页），注意用药如用兵，当适可而止，不可穷兵黩武，反致能源亏损。
2006-4-17 12:29 PM
古月
《养病服药必读》（见本书第79页）已放到8楼文中了。
[ Last edited by 古月 on 2006/4/17 at 12:57 ]
2006-4-17 12:55 PM
古月
大家如发现有和8楼文相关的帖子(感冒的正治与误治、误用或滥用药物…等)，可提出来，我将视内容代为放在8楼，方便读者集中查阅。
其他的案例型帖子，可由大家自行贴出来，医案请以“主要证状”及“发病经过”为主，请附上网址，以便读者详阅其他细节。
[ Last edited by 古月 on 2006/4/18 at 10:40 ]
Thus was the cold treated; caught a cold, became weak...
Full of fright and danger, the body chose self-repair...
In the summer of 1998, for unknown reasons, I had no strength in my body, could not walk, went out for a stroll but actually couldn't walk back on my own, couldn't take a step no matter what, and had to ask my father to carry me back. I didn't want to eat anything either. I lay in bed for over ten days, dangerously close to death. Fortunately, this time my mother didn't give me any medicine, only rice porridge, and later I recovered.
The Dao is one foot higher, yet the demon is one inch taller; good resistance cannot withstand the "cold IV drip"...
In college, I still got colds, then used antibiotics. Once, I took antibiotics for over ten days, switching between three different drugs in total, even using cephalosporins in the end, but still didn't recover, so I went for an IV drip. Once the IV started, three bottles cured it; that was fast. From then on, whenever I had a cold, I would just get an IV. By then, my body was already very poor: stomach pain, cold legs and feet, cervical spondylosis, headache. But I didn't understand, continuing all the mistakes, making things worse with frost on top of snow!
Weight loss, the eternal pain in my heart...
Don't forget, I was fat! In college, everyone competed in beauty; being fat was not beautiful at all, so I thought of weight-loss pills. Most of my monthly living expenses were spent on weight-loss pills. I tried all the popular ones, but the effect wasn't great; lost a few jin, but once I stopped the pills, the weight came back. No matter how much I reduced, I remained heavy. Lost money and sacrificed health!
Financial freedom achieved, medications upgraded, but health became a mirage...
After starting work and having money, most of my monthly salary was used to persist in fighting the disease. Stomach medicine, rhinitis medicine, cervical spine medicine, cold medicine filled a large drawer. Bought more after finishing, but it never ended, and the illness didn't heal. Work pressure made me tired; every afternoon I couldn catch my breath. To treat stomach disease, I underwent quadruple antibiotic therapy continuously for 20 days, causing insomnia and tinnitus at night, which I persisted through. In total, twice, adding up to 40 days of high-dose antibiotics. Thinking back now, I regret it deeply. At the time, I was quite happy, thinking, "This time I have so much medicine to kill your virus, see where you can hide." Two words: truly foolish! Afterwards, the condition remained the same, plus a new problem: gum felt pressured, as if teeth were about to fall out. Mornings were okay, but by afternoon, I wondered why the illness was so severe?
Famous doctor, famous doctor, where are you...
At this time, I constantly hoped to meet a famous doctor. I ran through all the hospitals in the city, but it still didn't work. So I pinned my hopes on the internet, hoping to cure all my illnesses online. I also mailed myself many medicines from the internet, but still suffered from stomach pain and rhinitis. One day, mucus flowing from my nose stuck in my throat, almost suffocating me. Then I thought, spending so much money, illness not healing, will I need a kidney transplant in the future? Terrified, feeling unsettled, extremely powerless.
The light of hope lies in Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM)
One day, I suddenly awakened; I must save myself. I had tested various Western medicines, they didn't work, so I turned to Chinese herbal medicine. I searched online for many formulas treating stomach diseases: some for Spleen-Stomach Qi Deficiency (Pi Wei Xu Ruo), some for Spleen-Stomach Damp-Heat (Pi Wei Shi Re), some for Liver-Stomach Disharmony (Gan Wei Bu He). I tried each for a week, but none seemed quite suitable. Still needed to find an expert. This time, I visited every TCM hospital, sought famous doctors, changed prescriptions. Paying 58 yuan per consultation, I could improve somewhat, but not completely. What to do?
A turn for the better, willows dark and flowers bright...
By then, I had encountered concepts like Spleen-Kidney Yang Deficiency Cold (Pi Shen Xu Han), Yang Deficiency (Yang Xu), and Yin Deficiency (Yin Xu) online, and searched for knowledge such as the *Shanghan Lun* (Treatise on Cold Pathogenic Diseases). Gradually, I realized that only doctors who could prescribe according to the *Shanghan Lun* could cure the illness. By chance, I discovered Deming TCM and chose Zhiyi Clinic (I know TCM doesn't divide into departments, so I committed to Zhiyi Clinic). Mr. Zhiyi's first prescription was Mahuang Fuzi Xixin Tang (Ephedra, Aconite, and Asarum Decoction). I was so excited then; I knew these herbs could cure illness. Finally, I found true TCM. From then on, my illness began to improve greatly.
Folk TCM, my home...
Later, I saw a dialogue post between Mr. Sanqi and a patient, and was deeply convinced. I searched Google for Folk TCM. I was too excited then; seeing Mr. Sanqi consulting, I blindly filled out medical records in his AIDS clinic without thinking, truly foolish. Then, I received treatment at Futai Caotang for nearly a year. I am no longer the person I was. Not only did my body improve, but I also looked younger. My father said I looked younger and prettier than four years ago. Of course, now I'm not so fat either; eating a bit more is fine! Now I am receiving treatment from Mr. Xingzhe. I am very confident I can fully recover. Truly very lucky to find true TCM and encounter so many highly skilled, noble, and selfless TCM doctors.
A single spark can start a prairie fire; everyone burns themselves to illuminate their immediate surroundings...
Now I am not only a patient but also a student, always learning in the forum. Using learned knowledge to influence relatives and friends around me, hoping everyone can become truly healthy. This is really not easy. Talking until my mouth foams might still fail to communicate with others; the road is difficult and tortuous. I think I should master more TCM knowledge, then persuade people with reason, achieving twice the result with half the effort!
These are my reflections, written a bit long and verbose, hoping to be helpful. Welcome everyone to point out shortcomings. Let's explore the path to health together.
One more sentence: my former math teacher said, studying math without doing problems is like entering a treasure mountain and returning empty-handed. Applying this saying, finding folk TCM without inquiry is also entering a treasure mountain and returning empty-handed!
(Before inquiry, don't forget to read *Must-Read for Illness Treatment and Medication*. Mr. Sanqi repeatedly emphasized, "Using medication is like using troops; stop when appropriate, do not engage in endless warfare, lest it deplete energy reserves." We must pay attention. Indeed, to win this battle, while ambition is sufficient, 'Jing' (Essence/Vital Energy) must also be abundant!)
If you've reached the bottom, please accept my thanks again. Thank you for your long-term attention! I give your patience 100 points.
[ Last edited by jingwei on 2006/4/17 at 13:51 ]
2006-4-16 10:01 PM
Guyue
Hello Miss Jingwei!
You wrote with great care. This experience, exchanged for long-term mis-treatment, is indeed costly. Everyone should read it carefully.
I pressed Enter several times in your masterpiece, otherwise unchanged.
I really wanted to add titles to each paragraph, but it should be done by you.
2006-4-16 11:57 PM
Guyue
It seems there will be more long posts following this thread. If articles are long, I suggest trying to press Enter multiple times to make your masterpiece (long article) easier to read, which in turn will generate more response. For detailed instructions, see:
"Forum Usage Common Sense"
Post 28 (Press Enter Multiple Times)
2006-4-17 12:05 AM
Wesleybb
Is Jingwei a junior fellow disciple of Chounan?
Good writing style.
1. Health is the normal state of all organisms, unless you intentionally destroy it;
2. When sick, especially with chronic diseases, first do not think about taking medicine; first find the cause of the illness. Once this unfavorable factor is eliminated, even without external help, the body will adjust quickly. The human body's intelligence and self-repair ability far exceed your imagination!
2006-4-17 12:27 AM
Jingwei
Thank you, moderators Guyue and Wesleybb, for your guidance and encouragement!
Chounan is the master's direct disciple; I was merely listening by the window, stealing a little knowledge, haha, just joking.
Indeed, I read Chounan's humorous masterpiece, liked it very much, and unconsciously learned from it...
2006-4-17 12:18 PM
Sanqi Sheng
Thank you for detailing your story above, but I still recommend *Must-Read for Illness Treatment and Medication* (see page 87 of this book). Note that using medication is like using troops; stop when appropriate, do not engage in endless warfare, lest it deplete energy reserves.
2006-4-17 12:29 PM
Guyue
*Must-Read for Illness Treatment and Medication* (see page 79 of this book) has been placed in Post 8.
[ Last edited by Guyue on 2006/4/17 at 12:57 ]
2006-4-17 12:55 PM
Guyue
If anyone finds posts related to Post 8 (Correct and Mis-treatment of Colds, Misuse or Abuse of Drugs, etc.), please bring them up, and I will place them in Post 8 for readers' convenience.
Other case-type posts can be posted by everyone. Medical cases should focus on "main symptoms" and "onset process," please attach URLs for readers to view other details.
[ Last edited by Guyue on 2006/4/18 at 10:40 ]