xiaoyu
本人女儿在三七先生的调理下,一天比一天强健!忠心感谢先生的医德医术!
2006-4-17 10:58 PM
紫元斋主
我是但原大多数国人能够看到先生的帖子,能够通过这个网站了解西医的危害!
2006-4-17 11:25 PM
lysong
我也是先生和草堂的收益者,我是伤精患者,不小心染上恶习,本身立场不够坚定 ,又收到西医的教唆,认为没有伤害,结果一直到把自己搞到精气全虚,刚开始治 疗的时候,我一直是吃消炎药、挂吊瓶,大约花了能有1万多的钱,结果化验出来 的结果还是跟开始没什么区别,幸亏当时我迷途知返,及时的收住,才不至于一直 的错下去。想想自己也曾吃过那么多的寒凉药,真不知道会给自己身体造成了多大 的伤害啊,幸好现在有了民间中医,我在这学到了很多东西,身体也在不断的好转 。现在我一直在努力的说服身边的人,希望他们也象我一样得到更多的知识。在此 再次感谢三七先生和草堂里各位无私的先生们。
2006-4-18 08:57 AM
三七生
主题置顶,请大家继续讨论。
道法自然!
我也是民间中医的受益者,开始学中医误入了温病学派,吃了不少知柏地黄丸以及 黄连银翘之类的药物,结果是表面现象缓解一两天,接着病情就变本加厉。
幸亏在这里学到了很多知识,才意识到西医和温病学派的误国误人之处,仔细回想 起来,我的病根是因为以前肺结核用了太多抗生素,导致脾肾极度阳虚,虽然结核 治好了,但是却引起了更大的问题,即脾肾极度虚寒,这就是西医所赖以标榜的能 治结核病,其实是以摧毁脾肾阳气为代价的,不久就会导致其它严重疾病的发生, 希望国人警醒过来,不要再迷信这世界上最大的伪科学——西医!我是西医所谓科 学治法的严重受害者,希望大家以我为戒!!!
大多数重病的根治方法在于灸法、四逆汤、理中之类回阳的药物,根本不会花多少 钱,却能让你整个人脱胎换骨,不过在治的过程中会出现很多排病反应,即把体内 的邪气排出体外,大家一定要认清什么是正治和误治,不要去让西医和温病学派压 症状和摧毁你本来就不多的元气,那样迟早会导致脏腑重病!
感谢民间中医,感谢三七老师还有其它民间中医上的道友!
[ Last edited by 道法自然! on 2006/4/19 at 08:06 ]
2006-4-19 08:03 AM
david92003
滥用寒凉太多可恨的地方了,没有时间一一说出。就说一个吧。
我妻子经常出现晚上手脚滚烫,睡不着觉,自己查温病方面的书说是阴虚。“六味 地黄丸”,吃了确实有用处,但是还会反复,就这样连续吃了3年。
实际的病因应该是体内有寒,阳不入阴。
脾胃给彻底吃坏,用经方治疗到现在,依然是脾胃冰凉。太难恢复了。
2006-4-19 08:12 AM
飘烟
自小很少上医院,伤风感冒老妈总是红糖姜水,有时也吃几颗感冒胶囊,直至现在 ,少感冒。
只见到身边的一些同事,小有感冒就吊点滴,有的几个月都难好,有的好了又重复 感冒,现在才明白当时老妈的苦心,其实最好的医生是自己……
2006-4-19 09:04 AM
青衣
两年前认识了草堂是我的幸运,由于不孕,医院跑了不少,钱也没少花,但激素的 治疗结果只是我越来越胖而已。在三七老师的治疗下,不到半年我就怀孕了,去年 的春天我终于有了个可爱的小宝贝。
草堂不但治好了我的病,还让我学会了很多中医知识,我女儿一年来感冒了3、4次 ,我都是给她熬生姜橘皮红塘水,用酒搓一下背、手心、脚心,2、3天就好。
我一个同事的女儿从出生20多天感冒去吊水,到现在4岁了,身体越来越差,20天 不感冒就‘烧高香’了。
中国再不停止抗生素滥用,真的要成东亚病夫了!
2006-4-19 09:33 AM
三七生
要不吃感冒胶囊你的身体就更好了。有药不如无药,悲夫!
2006-4-19 09:34 AM
天河水2
先生的仁心令人感动!让人敬佩!庆幸!
将近半年的时间里,通过先生的诊治,我的病症消除了,身体好转了;这本来在医 院的医生看来,须得有十年八年的时间才能消除的症状,在先生这里半年就治没了 ;于是对先生有了一种信任和依赖的感觉,有点小毛病就要吃药,这时先生就提醒 了:不要总是想吃药。能不吃就不吃。
前几天通过电视新闻得知,一位青年(不记得是哪里的了)因为长时间的咳嗽住院 治疗,医生们用遍了所有的消炎药,都没能治好这位青年的病。事后,专家们调查 分析,这位青年在单位食堂就餐,他总觉得食堂的饭菜不卫生,饭后总要吃消炎药 ,长此以来,身体有了抗药性,最后因为咳嗽不治而亡。
2006-4-19 09:42 AM
chounan
一不小心成了名人,天上掉下个小师妹。小师妹命好,没人说你心理阴暗,不光明 正大。怪我太偏激了,言辞张狂,枪打出头鸟。
如今有三个问题困扰着我。
一、同样是相火不藏阳不入阴。一种是无寒邪,只是阴虚,无力摄阳,虚阳外越。 一种是有寒邪长驻于阴,格阳外越。前种滋阴慢补,后种大火快攻。谁能告诉我怎 么知道自已是哪种情况,有哪些相同和不同症状表现。
二、同为尿频。一种是前列腺炎,一种是糖尿病。这两种又如何区别。以前我怀疑 自已前列腺炎,现在怀疑自已糖尿病。
拍砖滴俺先堵你一嘴,中医是反对西医滴仪器检查滴。9年前俺做了N项检查,花了 近700大洋,结果是没病找病,瘦是因为你年轻,等过了30岁就自动胖了。还好,9 年前滴西医很有良心,说我没病,没给我开一大堆药。现在都不想再检查了。
三、我觉得中国当前最大的问题是人口过多,至少有一半中国人不是该死,而是不 该生下来。如果中国的所有医院里的所有医生都象三七先生这么厉害,那中国人口 还不突破20亿啊。塞翁失马,焉知祸愊。冥冥中,一切皆有定数。谁又敢肯定上层 建筑扶持西医仅仅是为了钱,也许人家是做为计生的一种辅助手段。换了我当主席 ,我是不会用这种阴柔手段滴,我会展开大屠杀,赶铁木真,超多尔衮。
又偏激了一下,预估能招来10块板砖。
刘河间的后人刘纯,明朱棣的救命恩人,徐皇后滴表弟,太医院判,锦衣卫副司令 员,刘纯同志。中医版滴731部队。其N代孙刘弘章同志滴《太医世家漫谈三分治七 分养》,大家看过没有?谈谈读后感。他们家治癌症是用软禁的办法,知道根治不 了,就包围压制,压你一辈子,养你一辈子。有闭门留寇的嫌疑,也有三八线签字 的无奈。但是不吹牛的治学态度很令人感动。对我感触最深的就是国际中药贸易额 60亿美刀,大陆只占6亿。因为大陆的中药除了化肥农药以外,还人为喷水增重。 质量相当不堪。太医世家很无奈滴宣布,他们刘家从90年代起,不使用大陆的中药 材做原料。同仁堂没假药的原因,竟然是香港人李嘉诚是大股东。一个中成药的批 号要500万大洋加公布秘方。中国真正的中医高手只剩下300多。其它的不是死了, 而是跑到美国去了。洋人对中医滴迷信,竟然象国人对西医的迷信一样。老婆永远 是别人的漂亮啊。地球人都一个德性。抗生素,放化疗,在国外被批判得抬不起头 。昨天还在电视上看到医疗广告里用介入导融治前列腺,洋人早都不用了。
2006-4-19 10:02 AM
wesleybb
我也来添块砖。
小时候身体还算可以,而且也没那么多高级抗生素可用,所以没被摧残。
小学有一次发烧,检查时说可能是淋巴结核,单位医院的一位老大夫给开了中药汤 药。这位大夫其实主修心血管科,应该算西医。现在想起来以前的大夫的确是有功 底的。这算是又逃过了一劫。
随后多年,每年也会有几次感冒,我都是不吃药,拿身体硬抗,哪怕体温飘过39度 ;家里人看着着急;现在想起来也邪门,就好像冥冥之中跟西药呕气一样,(那时 还没了解中医),我就一句话“不信能烧死我!”,家里人拿我没办法。不过每次 也几天就康复了,算是又歪打正着又躲过了西药。
结识咱们网站后,汤头汤尾也混了个眼熟,就整天盼着自己感冒,试试经方的威力 ;终于让我给等着了,头疼发懵无汗鼻塞,兴冲冲地煎了9:9:18的麻辛附子汤,一 口气喝下去,盖被发汗;好汤,的确霸道,嘴巴麻了个把钟头;迷糊糊睡了半觉, 醒来象是换了个人,神清气爽,一看表,两个小时!我彻底服了。
说了半天,好像跟滥用寒凉关系不大,就算一些个人经历吧。
1、健康是所有生物的正常状态,除非你有意去破坏;
2、生病时,尤其是慢性病,首先不要想着吃药,要先找到得病的原因;一但消除 了这个不利因素,即使没有外力帮助,身体也会很快调整过来;人体的聪明程度和 自我修复能力远远超过你的想象!
2006-4-19 10:52 AM
冰山一角
支持先生!
强烈支持先生!
我是初来者,一直以来,深知滥用抗生素的危害,但是在我生活的的地方,当地所 谓名医,皆是西药为主、中药为副进行治疗小儿感冒,而西药则必加抗菌素,询问 则答,不加好不了!!明知孩子这样下去,身体会越来越糟,但是有什么办法呢? 现已是全民吊水的地步了,只要一进医院,不能不吊,不上医院,在民间,所谓名 医也不例外地滥用抗生素。对于不懂医学知识的我们这些平民百姓,只能陷于水深 火热之中了!今时今日,象先生这样的忧国忧民的有识之士,我深感敬重。我也希 望自己能在百忙之中业余能学习中医知识,至少从身边做起,照顾好身边的人,这 也算是一个支持的开始吧。
2006-4-19 11:28 AM
慈航广济
请大家耐心看看社会现状
2006-4-19 03:18 PM
jeckel
42楼每次发表的见解都让人耳目一新,三七先生真的没说错:chounan是天生的幽 默大师。严重期待你的新话题。
手中紧握军营令,
淫雨连绵度战壕。
过往戎装均诧异,
频打旗语马鸣啸。
有意成对偏落单,
害得女方心皆寒。
健心有望成连理,
康乐余生度残年。
2006-4-19 04:05 PM
花荫
悔恨悔恨悔恨,想起来都是悔恨
我儿子的
来草堂前儿子已经变得虚胖懒惰目光无神,连走路都含胸驼背懒得挺胸抬头,吃饭 时只吃肉,不吃蔬菜,很多次因为饭桌上看不到大肉而大哭,脾气不好,不合群, 不喜欢和小朋友玩。
在先生治疗过程中,有一天儿子放学回来,我惊喜地发现儿子竟然是精神充沛的样子 ,眼睛里也跳动着我从来没有见过的神采,那一天我太高兴了,因为几年来儿子每天 放学后,眼睛里都是疲惫和无精打采啊,我记得那天在家门口我抱着儿子使劲亲他, 我太开心了,因为我知道我的儿子在一天天的好起来。更神奇的是儿子的性格也开 朗多了,变得合群了,今年春节回老家,儿子和老家的小朋友都玩得很好,而不是象往 年那样一个人在家里看电视,小朋友来了都叫不走他。儿子现在每天都神采奕奕的 。
儿子的经历让我感觉那些寒凉药和化学合成的药剂应该就和环境污染一样是各种怪 病疑难病的罪魁祸首,应该比环境污染对人类的健康危害更大。
[ Last edited by 花荫 on 2006/4/19 at 17:39 ]
xiaoyu
我女儿在三七先生的调理下,身体一天比一天强壮!衷心感谢先生的医德和医术!
2006-4-17 10:58 PM
紫元斋主
我只希望大多数国人能看到先生的帖子,能够通过这个网站了解西医的危害!
2006-4-17 11:25 PM
lysong
我也是先生和草堂的受益者。我是伤精(因过度耗损导致精气亏虚)患者,不小心染上了不良习惯,本身立场不够坚定,又受到西医的误导,认为没有伤害,结果一直把自己搞到精气完全虚弱。刚开始治疗的时候,我一直吃消炎药、挂吊瓶,大约花了能有1万多元,结果化验出来的结果还是跟开始没什么区别。幸亏当时我迷途知返,及时收手,才不至于一直错下去。想想自己也曾吃过那么多的寒凉药,真不知道会给自己身体造成了多大的伤害啊。幸好现在有了民间中医,我在这学到了很多东西,身体也在不断好转。现在我一直在努力说服身边的人,希望他们也像我一样得到更多的知识。在此再次感谢三七先生和草堂里各位无私的先生们。
2006-4-18 08:57 AM
三七生
主题置顶,请大家继续讨论。
道法自然!
我也是民间中医的受益者。开始学中医时误入了温病学派(以清热养阴为主要治法的学派),吃了不少知柏地黄丸以及黄连银翘之类的药物,结果是表面现象缓解一两天,接着病情就变本加厉。
幸亏在这里学到了很多知识,才意识到西医和温病学派的误国误人之处。仔细回想起来,我的病根是因为以前肺结核用了太多抗生素,导致脾肾极度阳虚(脾肾阳气极度虚弱)。虽然结核治好了,但是却引起了更大的问题,即脾肾极度虚寒,这就是西医所赖以标榜能治结核病,其实是以摧毁脾肾阳气为代价的,不久就会导致其它严重疾病的发生。希望国人警醒过来,不要再迷信这世界上最大的伪科学——西医!我是西医所谓科学治法的严重受害者,希望大家以我为戒!!!
大多数重病的根治方法在于灸法、四逆汤(回阳救逆的代表方剂)、理中(理中汤类温中散寒方剂)之类回阳的药物,根本不会花多少钱,却能让你整个人脱胎换骨。不过在治的过程中会出现很多排病反应,即把体内的邪气排出体外,大家一定要认清什么是正治和误治,不要去让西医和温病学派压制症状和摧毁你本来就不多的元气,那样迟早会导致脏腑重病!
感谢民间中医,感谢三七老师还有其它民间中医上的道友!
[ Last edited by 道法自然! on 2006/4/19 at 08:06 ]
2006-4-19 08:03 AM
david92003
滥用寒凉药太可恨了,没时间一一说出。就说一个吧。
我妻子经常出现晚上手脚滚烫,睡不着觉,自己查温病方面的书说是阴虚。“六味地黄丸”,吃了确实有用处,但是还会反复,就这样连续吃了3年。
实际的病因应该是体内有寒,阳不入阴(阳气不能入于阴分而致失眠等症)。
脾胃给彻底吃坏了,用经方(经典方剂)治疗到现在,依然是脾胃冰凉。太难恢复了。
2006-4-19 08:12 AM
飘烟
自小很少上医院,伤风感冒老妈总是红糖姜水,有时也吃几颗感冒胶囊,直至现在,少感冒。
只见到身边的一些同事,小有感冒就吊点滴,有的几个月都难好,有的好了又重复感冒,现在才明白当时老妈的苦心,其实最好的医生是自己……
2006-4-19 09:04 AM
青衣
两年前认识了草堂是我的幸运,由于不孕,医院跑了不少,钱也没少花,但激素的治疗结果只是我越来越胖而已。在三七老师的治疗下,不到半年我就怀孕了,去年的春天我终于有了个可爱的小宝贝。
草堂不但治好了我的病,还让我学会了很多中医知识,我女儿一年来感冒了3、4次,我都是给她熬生姜橘皮红塘水,用酒搓一下背、手心、脚心,2、3天就好。
我一个同事的女儿从出生20多天感冒去吊水,到现在4岁了,身体越来越差,20天不感冒就‘烧高香’了。
中国再不停止抗生素滥用,真的要成东亚病夫了!
2006-4-19 09:33 AM
三七生
要不吃感冒胶囊你的身体就更好了。有药不如无药,悲夫!
2006-4-19 09:34 AM
天河水2
先生的仁心令人感动!让人敬佩!庆幸!
将近半年的时间里,通过先生的诊治,我的病症消除了,身体好转了;这本来在医院的医生看来,须得有十年八年的时间才能消除的症状,在先生这里半年就治没了;于是对先生有了一种信任和依赖的感觉,有点小毛病就要吃药,这时先生就提醒了:不要总是想吃药。能不吃就不吃。
前几天通过电视新闻得知,一位青年(不记得是哪里的了)因为长时间的咳嗽住院治疗,医生们用遍了所有的消炎药,都没能治好这位青年的病。事后,专家们调查分析,这位青年在单位食堂就餐,他总觉得食堂的饭菜不卫生,饭后总要吃消炎药,长此以来,身体有了抗药性,最后因为咳嗽不治而亡。
2006-4-19 09:42 AM
chounan
一不小心成了名人,天上掉下个小师妹。小师妹命好,没人说你心理阴暗,不光明正大。怪我太偏激了,言辞张狂,枪打出头鸟。
如今有三个问题困扰着我。
一、同样是相火不藏阳不入阴。一种是无寒邪,只是阴虚,无力摄阳,虚阳外越。一种是有寒邪长驻于阴,格阳外越。前种滋阴慢补,后种大火快攻。谁能告诉我怎么知道自己是哪种情况,有哪些相同和不同症状表现。
二、同为尿频。一种是前列腺炎,一种是糖尿病。这两种又如何区别。以前我怀疑自己前列腺炎,现在怀疑自己糖尿病。
拍砖滴俺先堵你一嘴,中医是反对西医滴仪器检查滴。9年前俺做了N项检查,花了近700大洋,结果是没病找病,瘦是因为你年轻,等过了30岁就自动胖了。还好,9年前的西医很有良心,说我没病,没给我开一大堆药。现在都不想再检查了。
三、我觉得中国当前最大的问题是人口过多,至少有一半中国人不是该死,而不该生下来。如果中国的所有医院里的所有医生都象三七先生这么厉害,那中国人口还不突破20亿啊。塞翁失马,焉知祸愊。冥冥中,一切皆有定数。谁又敢肯定上层建筑扶持西医仅仅是为了钱,也许人家是做为计生的一种辅助手段。换了我当主席,我是不会用这种阴柔手段滴,我会展开大屠杀,赶铁木真,超多尔衮。
又偏激了一下,预估能招来10块板砖。
刘河间的后人刘纯,明朱棣的救命恩人,徐皇后的表弟,太医院判,锦衣卫副司令员,刘纯同志。中医版的731部队。其N代孙刘弘章同志的《太医世家漫谈三分治七分养》,大家看过没有?谈谈读后感。他们家治癌症是用软禁的办法,知道根治不了,就包围压制,压你一辈子,养你一辈子。有闭门留寇的嫌疑,也有三八线签字的无奈。但是不吹牛的治学态度很令人感动。对我感触最深的就是国际中药贸易额60亿美刀,大陆只占6亿。因为大陆的中药除了化肥农药以外,还人为喷水增重。质量相当不堪。太医世家很无奈地宣布,他们刘家从90年代起,不使用大陆的中药材做原料。同仁堂没假药的原因,竟然是香港人李嘉诚是大股东。一个中成药的批号要500万大洋加公布秘方。中国真正的中医高手只剩下300多。其它的不是死了,而是跑到美国去了。洋人对中医的迷信,竟然像国人对西医的迷信一样。老婆永远是别人的漂亮啊。地球人都一个德性。抗生素,放化疗,在国外被批判得抬不起头。昨天还在电视上看到医疗广告里用介入导融治前列腺,洋人早都不用了。
2006-4-19 10:02 AM
wesleybb
我也来添块砖。
小时候身体还算可以,而且也没那么多高级抗生素可用,所以没被摧残。
小学有一次发烧,检查时说可能是淋巴结核,单位医院的一位老大夫给开了中药汤药。这位大夫其实主修心血管科,应该算西医。现在想起来以前的大夫的确是有功底的。这算是又逃过了一劫。
随后多年,每年也会有几次感冒,我都是不吃药,拿身体硬抗,哪怕体温飘过39度;家里人看着着急;现在想起来也邪门,就好像冥冥之中跟西药呕气一样,(那时还没了解中医),我就一句话“不信能烧死我!”,家里人拿我没办法。不过每次也几天就康复了,算是又歪打正着又躲过了西药。
结识咱们网站后,汤头汤尾也混了个眼熟,就整天盼着自己感冒,试试经方的威力;终于让我给等着了,头疼发懵无汗鼻塞,兴冲冲地煎了9:9:18的麻辛附子汤,一口气喝下去,盖被发汗;好汤,的确霸道,嘴巴麻了个把钟头;迷迷糊糊睡了半觉,醒来像是换了个人,神清气爽,一看表,两个小时!我彻底服了。
说了半天,好像跟滥用寒凉关系不大,就算一些个人经历吧。
1、健康是所有生物的正常状态,除非你有意去破坏;
2、生病时,尤其是慢性病,首先不要想着吃药,要先找到得病的原因;一旦消除了这个不利因素,即使没有外力帮助,身体也会很快调整过来;人体的聪明程度和自我修复能力远远超过你的想象!
2006-4-19 10:52 AM
冰山一角
支持先生!
强烈支持先生!
我是初来者,一直以来,深知滥用抗生素的危害,但是在我的生活地方,当地所谓名医,皆是西药为主、中药为副进行治疗小儿感冒,而西药则必加抗菌素,询问则答,不加好不了!!明知孩子这样下去,身体会越来越糟,但是有什么办法呢?现已是全民吊水的地步了,只要一进医院,不能不吊,不上医院,在民间,所谓名医也不例外地滥用抗生素。对于不懂医学知识的我们这些平民百姓,只能陷于水深火热之中了!今时今日,像先生这样的忧国忧民的有识之士,我深感敬重。我也希望自己在百忙之中业余能学习中医知识,至少从身边做起,照顾好身边的人,这也算是一个支持的开始吧。
2006-4-19 11:28 AM
慈航广济
请大家耐心看看社会现状
2006-4-19 03:18 PM
jeckel
42楼每次发表的见解都让人耳目一新,三七先生真的没说错:chounan是天生的幽默大师。严重期待你的新话题。
手中紧握军营令,
淫雨连绵度战壕。
过往戎装均诧异,
频打旗语马鸣啸。
有意成对偏落单,
害得女方心皆寒。
健心有望成连理,
康乐余生度残年。
2006-4-19 04:05 PM
花荫
悔恨悔恨悔恨,想起来都是悔恨
我儿子的
来草堂前儿子已经变得虚胖懒惰目光无神,连走路都含胸驼背懒得挺胸抬头,吃饭时只吃肉,不吃蔬菜,很多次因为饭桌上看不到大肉而大哭,脾气不好,不合群,不喜欢和小朋友玩。
在先生治疗过程中,有一天儿子放学回来,我惊喜地发现儿子竟然是精神充沛的样子,眼睛里也跳动着我从来没有见过的神采,那一天我太高兴了,因为几年来儿子每天放学后,眼睛里都是疲惫和无精打采啊,我记得那天在家门口我抱着儿子使劲亲他, 我太开心了,因为我知道我的儿子在一天天的好起来。更神奇的是儿子的性格也开朗多了,变得合群了,今年春节回老家,儿子和老家的小朋友都玩得很好,而不是像往年那样一个人在家里看电视,小朋友来了都叫不走他。儿子现在每天都神采奕奕的。
儿子的经历让我感觉那些寒凉药和化学合成的药剂应该就和环境污染一样是各种怪病疑难病的罪魁祸首,应该比环境污染对人类的健康危害更大。
[ Last edited by 花荫 on 2006/4/19 at 17:39 ]
[Background Information]
Book Title: Selected Medical Discussions from Futai Caotang Chapter: Main Text (53/56) Category: Medical Discussion
xiaoyu
Under the regulation of Mr. Sanqi, my daughter is becoming stronger day by day! I sincerely thank Mr. for his medical ethics and skills!
April 17, 2006, 10:58 PM
Ziyuan Zhaizhu
I only hope that most Chinese people can see Mr.'s posts and understand the harms of Western medicine through this website!
April 17, 2006, 11:25 PM
lysong
I am also a beneficiary of Mr. and the Caotang. I am a patient with Jing injury (disease caused by excessive depletion of essence). Due to accidentally developing bad habits, lacking firm stance, and being misled by Western medicine into believing there was no harm, I eventually depleted my essence completely. When I first started treatment, I took anti-inflammatory drugs and received IV drips, spending over 10,000 yuan, yet lab results remained unchanged. Fortunately, I turned back in time and stopped, avoiding further mistakes. Thinking about how much cold-natured medication I consumed, I don't know what damage it did to my body. Fortunately, I found folk TCM here, learned a lot, and my health is improving. I am now trying to persuade those around me to gain more knowledge like I did. Thanks again to Mr. Sanqi and all the selfless practitioners in the Caotang.
April 18, 2006, 08:57 AM
Sanqi Sheng
Topic pinned, please continue the discussion.
Dao Fa Zi Ran!
I am also a beneficiary of folk TCM. When I first studied TCM, I mistakenly entered the Wenbing School (a school focusing on warm-pathogen diseases), taking many Zhibai Dihuang Wan and herbs like Huanglian and Yinqiao. The result was temporary relief for one or two days, followed by worsening symptoms.
Thanks to learning here, I realized the errors of Western medicine and the Wenbing School. Reflecting carefully, my root cause was using too many antibiotics for pulmonary tuberculosis previously, leading to extreme Yang deficiency of Spleen and Kidney (extreme insufficiency of Spleen and Kidney Yang). Although the tuberculosis was cured, it caused greater problems: extreme deficiency-cold of Spleen and Kidney. This is the cost Western medicine claims to cure TB—destroying Spleen and Kidney Yang—which soon leads to other serious diseases. I hope Chinese people wake up and stop worshipping the world's biggest pseudoscience—Western medicine! I am a severe victim of so-called scientific Western treatment; I hope everyone takes me as a warning!!!
The radical cure for most severe diseases lies in moxibustion, Sini Tang (Four Reversal Decoction), Lizhong Tang (Regulate the Middle Decoction), and other Yang-restoring medicines. They are inexpensive but can transform one's entire constitution. However, many "Ming Xie" reactions (discharge of pathogenic factors during healing) may occur. Everyone must distinguish between correct treatment and mis-treatment. Do not let Western medicine and the Wenbing School suppress symptoms and destroy your already scarce Yuan Qi (Original Qi), or it will inevitably lead to severe organ diseases!
Thanks to folk TCM, thanks to Teacher Sanqi and other fellow Daoists in folk TCM!
[ Last edited by Dao Fa Zi Ran! on 2006/4/19 at 08:06 ]
April 19, 2006, 08:03 AM
david92003
There are too many hateful aspects of abusing cold-natured medications; I don't have time to list them all. Let me mention one.
My wife often experienced burning hot hands and feet at night and insomnia. Checking books on Wenbing, she thought it was Yin deficiency. Liuwei Dihuang Wan (Six-Ingredient Pill with Rehmannia) seemed useful, but symptoms recurred. She took it continuously for 3 years.
The actual cause should be internal cold, with Yang failing to enter Yin (Yang failing to enter the Yin aspect to maintain sleep and physiological balance).
Her Spleen and Stomach were thoroughly damaged. Even after treating with Jingfang (Classic Formulas), her Spleen and Stomach remain icy cold. It is too difficult to recover.
April 19, 2006, 08:12 AM
Piao Yan
Since childhood, I rarely went to hospitals. For wind-cold common colds, my mother always made brown sugar ginger water, sometimes I took a few cold capsules. Until now, I catch colds infrequently.
I've seen colleagues who, with minor colds, get IV drips. Some take months to heal, others relapse repeatedly. Now I understand my mother's苦心 (hard work/care). Actually, the best doctor is oneself...
April 19, 2006, 09:04 AM
Qing Yi
Meeting the Caotang two years ago was my luck. Due to infertility, I visited many hospitals and spent money, but hormone treatments only made me fatter. Under Teacher Sanqi's treatment, I became pregnant in less than half a year. Last spring, I finally had a cute baby.
The Caotang not only cured my illness but taught me much TCM knowledge. My daughter caught colds 3-4 times last year. I boiled ginger, tangerine peel, and brown sugar water for her, rubbed her back, palms, and soles with alcohol, and she recovered in 2-3 days.
A colleague's daughter got a cold at 20 days old and received IV drips. Now at 4 years old, her health is deteriorating; going 20 days without a cold is considered lucky.
If China doesn't stop antibiotic abuse, we will truly become the "Sick Man of East Asia"!
April 19, 2006, 09:33 AM
Sanqi Sheng
If you hadn't taken cold capsules, your body would be even better. Having medicine is worse than having none, alas!
April 19, 2006, 09:34 AM
Tianhe Shui 2
Mr.'s benevolent heart is moving! Admired! Fortunate!
In nearly half a year, through Mr.'s diagnosis and treatment, my symptoms disappeared and health improved; symptoms that hospital doctors said would take ten to eight years to eliminate were gone in half a year here. Thus, I developed trust and dependence on Mr., wanting to take medicine for every minor ailment. Then Mr. reminded me: Don't always want to take medicine. If you can avoid it, do not take it.
A few days ago, news reported a young man hospitalized for long-term cough. Doctors used all anti-inflammatory drugs without success. Experts later analyzed that he ate at a company cafeteria, felt the food was unhygienic, and took anti-inflammatory drugs after every meal. Long-term use led to drug resistance, and he eventually died from the untreated cough.
April 19, 2006, 09:42 AM
Chounan
Accidentally became famous, a junior sister fell from the sky. The junior sister has good fate; no one says her psychology is dark or unfair. Blame myself for being too extreme, speaking arrogantly; the gun shoots the bird that sticks its head out.
Now three questions trouble me.
First, both cases involve Mingmen Fire not hiding and Yang not entering Yin. One case has no cold pathogen, only Yin deficiency, unable to control Yang, causing floating Yang to escape outward. The other has persistent cold pathogen in Yin, forcing Yang to escape outward. The former requires slow nourishment of Yin; the latter requires rapid attack with strong fire. Who can tell me how to know which situation I am in, and what are the similarities and differences in symptoms?
Second, both present with frequent urination. One is prostatitis, the other is diabetes. How to distinguish these two? Previously I suspected prostatitis, now I suspect diabetes.
Let me block your mouth first if you criticize me. TCM opposes Western instrument examinations. Nine years ago, I underwent N tests, spending nearly 700 yuan, resulting in finding disease where there was none. Being thin is because you are young; you will automatically gain weight after 30. Fortunately, Western doctors 9 years ago had conscience, saying I was healthy and didn't prescribe a pile of drugs. Now I don't want to check anymore.
Third, I think China's biggest current problem is overpopulation. At least half of Chinese people shouldn't have been born. If all doctors in all Chinese hospitals were as skilled as Mr. Sanqi, wouldn't China's population exceed 2 billion? A blessing in disguise. In the unseen, everything is destined. Who dares to say the establishment supports Western medicine just for money? Maybe it's an auxiliary method for family planning. If I were chairman, I wouldn't use such soft methods; I would launch massacres, surpass Genghis Khan and Dorgon.
Being extreme again, expecting 10 bricks thrown at me.
Liu Chun, descendant of Liu Hejian, savior of Zhu Di of Ming, cousin of Empress Xu, President of the Imperial Medical Bureau, Deputy Commander of the Jinyiwei, Comrade Liu Chun. The 731 Unit of TCM. His Nth-generation descendant Liu Hongzhang's "Casual Talks of a Family of Imperial Physicians: 30% Treatment, 70% Nourishment," has everyone read it? Share your thoughts. Their family treated cancer by house arrest. Knowing it couldn't be cured radically, they surrounded and suppressed it, suppressing you for a lifetime, nourishing you for a lifetime. Suspected of keeping the thief inside the door, also helpless like signing the 38th parallel agreement. But their non-boastful academic attitude is touching. What touched me most is that international Chinese herbal trade is $6 billion, with mainland China accounting for only $600 million. Because mainland Chinese herbs, besides fertilizers and pesticides, are artificially sprayed with water to increase weight. Quality is terrible. The Imperial Medical Family helplessly announced that since the 90s, they do not use mainland Chinese herbal materials. Tongrentang has no fake drugs because Hong Kong's Li Ka-shing is a major shareholder. A patent number for a Chinese patent medicine costs 5 million yuan plus revealing the secret formula. There are only 300+ true TCM masters left in China. Others are dead or moved to America. Foreigners' worship of TCM is just like our worship of Western medicine. Wives are always prettier when they belong to others. People everywhere are the same. Antibiotics, radiotherapy, and chemotherapy are criticized heavily abroad. Yesterday I saw a medical ad on TV using interventional therapy for prostate; foreigners stopped using it long ago.
April 19, 2006, 10:02 AM
Wesleybb
I'll add another brick.
My health was okay as a child, and there weren't many advanced antibiotics available, so I wasn't devastated.
In elementary school, I had a fever. Tests suggested possible lymphatic tuberculosis. An old doctor at the unit hospital prescribed Chinese herbal decoction. This doctor actually specialized in cardiology, so he should count as a Western doctor. Looking back, previous doctors indeed had solid foundations. This counts as escaping another disaster.
For subsequent years, I had colds several times a year. I never took medicine, relying on my body to resist, even if temperature exceeded 39°C; my family worried. Now thinking about it, it's eerie, as if defying Western medicine in some unseen way (I hadn't understood TCM then), I just said, "I don't believe it can burn me to death!" My family couldn't handle it. But I recovered in a few days each time, coincidentally avoiding Western medicine.
After joining our website, I became familiar with various formulas. I looked forward to catching a cold to test the power of Jingfang (Classic Formulas). Finally, it happened: headache, confusion, no sweat, nasal congestion. I excitedly decocted Muxing Fuzi Tang (Ephedra, Asarum, and Aconite Decoction) in a 9:9:18 ratio, drank it in one go, covered up to induce sweating. Good soup, indeed domineering; my mouth went numb for an hour. I slept dazedly for half a sleep, woke up feeling like a new person, refreshed. Checked the watch: two hours! I was thoroughly convinced.
Talking so much seems unrelated to abusing cold-natured meds, so consider it personal experience.
1. Health is the normal state of all organisms unless intentionally destroyed;
2. When sick, especially chronic diseases, first don't think about taking medicine; find the cause of the illness. Once this unfavorable factor is eliminated, even without external help, the body will adjust quickly. Human intelligence and self-repair ability far exceed your imagination!
April 19, 2006, 10:52 AM
Bingshan Yijiao
Support Mr.!
Strongly support Mr.!
I am a newcomer. Always knowing the harms of antibiotic abuse, but in my living area, local so-called famous doctors treat children's colds primarily with Western medicine and secondarily with TCM, and Western medicine must include antibiotics. Asked why, they answer, "It won't heal without it!!" Knowing the child's health will worsen, but what can be done? Now it's universal IV drip usage. Once in a hospital, you must get an IV. Not going to a hospital, folk so-called famous doctors also abuse antibiotics. For us commoners不懂 (not understanding) medical knowledge, we are trapped in deep water and scorching fire! Today, seeing scholars like Mr. who worry about the country and people, I deeply respect. I also hope to learn TCM knowledge in my spare time, starting from those around me, taking care of them. This counts as a start of support.
April 19, 2006, 11:28 AM
Cihang Guangji
Please patiently look at the social status quo.
April 19, 2006, 03:18 PM
Jeckel
Post #42 always offers refreshing insights. Mr. Sanqi really didn't exaggerate: Chounan is a natural humor master. Seriously looking forward to your new topics.
Holding tightly the military orders,
Through continuous rain in the trenches.
Passing comrades in uniform all surprised,
Frequent flag signals and horse whinnies.
Intending to pair off but ending up alone,
Causing the woman's heart to chill.
Health hopes to form a union,
Joyful remaining years to spend.
April 19, 2006, 04:05 PM
Huayin
Regret, regret, regret, thinking of it brings only regret.
My son's
Before coming to the Caotang, my son had become flabby, lazy, with dull eyes. He walked hunched, unwilling to stand straight. At meals, he only ate meat, no vegetables, crying many times when no big meat was on the table. Bad temper, unsociable, disliked playing with kids.
During Mr.'s treatment, one day after school, I joyfully found my son energetic, with a sparkle in his eyes I'd never seen before. I was so happy that day because for years after school, his eyes showed fatigue and listlessness. I remember hugging and kissing him hard at the door. I was so happy knowing my son was getting better day by day. More magically, his personality became more cheerful and sociable. This Spring Festival, back home, he played well with local kids, unlike previous years watching TV alone, refusing to leave when kids came. My son is now radiant every day.
My son's experience makes me feel those cold-natured drugs and chemical synthetic agents should be the chief culprits of various strange and difficult diseases, just like environmental pollution, perhaps even more harmful to human health.
[ Last edited by Huayin on 2006/4/19 at 17:39 ]